The Point: My Dearest Baby

We all know this. For the Colson Center for Christian Worldview, I’m John Stonestreet with The Point.

What kind of celebration do you throw for a friend when she announces she’s expecting? A baby shower! What do you ask a mother who looks like she’s about to pop? “When’s the baby due?”

We all know what’s inside the womb. It’s a baby. And even abortion supporters will call it a baby when they let their guard down. Only during political discussions do we use “fetus” or “clump of cells,” and “product of conception.” The rest of the time, no one pretends not to know the unborn are very much human, and very much alive.

Tennis superstar Serena Williams gave another example recently when she posted a pregnancy photo on Facebook which began, “My dearest baby.” News outlets that regularly use dehumanizing terms when abortion comes up reported her words without comment. It’s no surprise.

Look, tools like ultrasound are helpful for showing the humanity of the unborn. But at the end of the day, we all know what abortion kills. And that makes it all the more horrific.

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  • Loren & Christina Killgore

    So, are you merely giving us a medical-dictionary definition terms? Is that your profession, and does it have the final say in regards to your belief system? I’m in the drafting & engineering business, so I appreciate the weight & importance of strict terms & definitions.

    In that light, have you considered that mankind has yet to create a human being from total scratch? What about all the medical & biological processes necessary to even begin said creation? Sure, we know about cloning something that’s already been created, but I’m talking about creating from scratch.

    So then in that light, God’s word-the Bible-has the heaviest terms & definitions. Instead of being a Bible-thumper, I’ll try to paraphrase: Psalm 139, Jeremiah 1 and Genesis 3 use terms like dust, body, frame & form, all before we are even in the womb! Furthermore, they state that God/Yahweh knows us intimately & personally, in these states; just like a real person.

    • Phoenix1977

      Yes, I’m an MD and when talking about medical situations medicine has the final say in my book. And since abortion IS a medical procedure …

      I don’t accept your god as being real so his or her terms and definitions mean nothing to me either. So for me, that is a non-argument but, more importantly, in both the law and medicine, it is also a non-argument.

      • Just one of many voices

        I see. I know several people who are pretty ingrained in science or law (engineers, doctors, researchers) and therefore, that is the end-all.

        Are medical science & literature the main things that have shaped your worldview? Or are there some major personal experiences that are primarily responsible? Maybe both? For me it’s a mix of both, though I think personal/social experience has a slight majority.

        • Phoenix1977

          Yes, personal experiences did shape my world view. That’s the most important reason why I don’t accept your god. Let’s leave it at that.

          • Just one of many voices

            Thanks for sharing, that says a lot. Based on what little discussion I’ve had with you, I imagine you’ve had some interactions with people claiming to be Christian that you wish you could forget. But I could be wrong.

            It is quite shameful–to be sure–that there are people who bear the Christian title and yet are extremely hateful, judging & evil. Westboro Baptist Church, to name one. One look at groups like that and it’s no wonder Christianity has a bad name around the world.

          • Phoenix1977

            You’re not wrong, except the “some” part. From being threatened with physical harm through a Christian petitioning the home owners association to have me and my partner evicted from our apartment to being harrassed by my boss so I would quit my job. And that’s not even counting all the times my Christian classmates at my Catholic high school beating me up and, once I was out of the closet, trying to rape me. I wish I could forget virtually every encounter I ever had with any Christian.
            If the Christian faith would cease to exist today it would still not be quick enough for me. And most LGBTs have quite similar stories.

          • Just one of many voices

            Wow….that’s horrifyingly tragic. I’m sorry you experienced all that. I hope someday you meet some Christians who are DEEPLY CONVICTED about the law of love, grace, mercy, etc. I know the Bible has no say in your life, but for people like myself, it clearly states that we must love & show mercy, or else! James 2:13, Galatians 5:13-14, and Matthew 18:21-25 to name just a few.

            I mentioned my deceased uncle. He had tons of us Christian relatives, but none of us ever tried to harass, beat or rape. Terrible!

            *sigh* I’ll save my soap-box on the judging, hateful, Pharisee-types for another time.

          • Phoenix1977

            There is very little chance of that. I keep most religious people, and especially Christians, as far away from me as humanly possible. And if you had the same experiences I had you would too.

          • Just one of many voices

            “Very little chance” sounds like a miracle which is Jesus’ specialty. I’ll pray for a miracle 🙂

          • Phoenix1977

            That’s up to you. I won’t stop you. But, if I were you, I wouldn’t hold my breath. It’s not that I don’t know what I’m missing because I was raised a Christian. It’s just that I simply don’t miss it at all. Like I said, too much has happened between me and Christian for me to ever truly trust Christians again. And besides that, my world view and that of Christianity couldn’t be further apart nowadays and I don’t see that changing anytime ever.

  • Gordon Hazell

    So the difference is the birth canal? Hmm. That clearly is just the medical field’s small population of elite that got away with bending and twisting language. Smh

  • AtTheCrossroads

    Phoenix1977, seems like your comment reinforces the point of this message from John Stonestreet. One of the tactics the “Pro Choice” side uses is to obscure meaning with semantics. From a medical point of view, an arm may be called a femur. But should we be less moved emotionally if we learn someone has lost a femur, rather than an arm? They are the same, as are a baby and a fetus. There is no magical transformation of fetus to baby simply by a trip through the birth canal . . . and when someone takes the life of an innocent baby, by any name, it is tragic. That is The Point.

  • GrantFamilyPastures

    Oh c’mon Phoenix, that has to be one of the worst arguments I’ve ever heard and is so intellectually tiny I can hardly take you as being serious. So just because some medical textbook or “point of view”, which was likely written by a medical group with an agenda, decides to have a term and definition for a living human being inside it’s mothers womb, then that becomes “non-negationable” and is supposed to “eliminate all emotion”? What!?

    It doesn’t matter what the term is. You can call the living human being inside a mother’s womb a “fetus”, a “pineapple”, a nuclear bomb” , whatever! The point is that it is a living human being and abortion means murdering that living human being.

    Emotion doesn’t blur lines, refusing to be truthful about what’s living inside the womb is what blurs lines. Please excuse those who get emotional over the murder of innocent humans, which is something to get emotional about. I’m sorry Phoenix1977, but your emperor has no clothes.

    • Gina Dalfonzo

      That first sentence is a little too close to “personal remarks,” which we don’t allow, GrantFamilyPastures. Please refer to the comment policy above, and be more careful. Thank you.

  • AtTheCrossroads

    Phoenix1977 . . . “eliminate all emotion from the subject”. For most who believe that the right to life is fundamental and must be protected, it is primarily a moral, not emotional, matter. We may or may not have emotions toward the 1 million + babies killed every year . . . but we know it is wrong to kill an innocent human being. Without the moral infrastructure that protects the vulnerable from the powerful, human civilization crumbles. If that moral infrastructure is at the whim of either the governed or governors we get either tyranny or anarchy. Our founders got it right when they declared that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights . . . beginning with LIFE. Both the governed and their governors must defend such rights or they will be lost for both.

    • gladys1071

      look I don’t like abortion anymore than you do, but as a Christian, I have a problem with compelling or forcing a woman to gestate a pregnancy against her will. When it comes down to it, I will side with the woman’s rights coming first especially in the 1st trimester. I don’t consider a 1st trimester embryo the equivalent to a later term fetus or newborn baby.

      You can say that I am wrong, but I just side with the woman and I think her life comes first.

      • Rachel Hayes

        “Forcing a woman to gestate a pregnancy against her will,” really? 99% of pregnancies, (aka the beginning of every new human life), result from a choice to have sex or be inseminated. A woman is not “forced to gestate,” she is in a completely natural state that resulted from her choice to have sex. We were all 1st trimester embryos at one point, and if we weren’t we would cease to exist. The argument that early human life is less human or less deserving of protection is completely faulty. A newborn is small, still developing, completely dependent, and requires nurturing outside of the womb, but it is the same human being that was growing inside the womb. Do we say that a newborn is not “equivalent” to a toddler or a teenager because it is smaller, less developed, more dependent? Do we say that a newborn is 75% less human than an adult because its brain is 25% the size of an adult brain? Of course not, that is logically and scientifically unsound. Every argument made that seeks to dehumanize and devalue a human life in the womb can be made for a newborn or even a toddler. Our feelings about whether or not we want it to be so do not determine the existence or value of a human life – reality and scientific fact do. Carrying a pregnancy to term does not mean a woman does not come first or that her life is forfeit; it is not a life or death situation. Abortion is. Human embryo, fetus, newborn, toddler, child, teenager, adult, senior – all terms describing a human being at its various stages of development. Intentionally end that life at any of those stages and you have killed a human being. Gladys1071, I hope that you will reconsider your position.

        • gladys1071

          I respect you point of view, but i respectfully disagree. My view is that a woman has a right to refuse to gestate for 9 months whether she intended to get pregnant or not. A woman owns her body and has a right to control the contents of her uterus and expel its contents if she so wishes. I don’t consider a 1st trimester embryo having the same rights as the woman. Not trying to be callous but, denying women the right to terminate a pregnancy to be is subjecting her to gestational servitude.

          thank you though for being civil and not attacking me for my view.

  • Just one of many voices

    Phoenix1977’s strict adherence to medical, scientific and law terms/definitions prompted me to look up “abort” and “abortion” in different online dictionaries sources. Very interesting, to say the least, the way languages & words change over time.

    Sometimes I wonder if humanity has gone through many more tower-of-Babylon phases, where God confuses the languages.

    I’m very grateful to know & serve a God whose ways do not change, are not partial, etc. (Numbers 23:19, Romans 2:11, just to name a few references)