The Point: NC Is Doing Fine

Don’t give in to empty threats. For the Colson Center for Christian Worldview, I’m John Stonestreet with The Point.

Last year, in response to a rogue city of Charlotte ordinance, North Carolina passed H.B. 2, which required people to use the public restroom corresponding to the sex on their birth certificate. In a national outcry, media outlets called for boycotts of the state and major corporations like the NFL threatened to take their business elsewhere.

Under pressure, the legislature repealed and replaced the law. But Family Policy Facts reports that despite the backlash, North Carolina was still ranked by Site Selection Magazine as the most economically competitive state. And in 2016, North Carolina enjoyed a record-breaking year of tourism.

Look, there’s no reason to cave to an idea in rebellion against reality. The fact that North Carolina still came out on top shows that often, the sexual revolution’s bark is worse than its bite. And though they might not have loud voices, there are still a lot of people and companies out there who recognize common sense when they see it—or who just don’t believe everything the media tells them.


Evidence Mounts That HB2 Had Little Impact on Economy
  • NC Family Staff | | May 9, 2017

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  • Phoenix1977

    “North Carolina was still ranked by Site Selection Magazine as the most economically competitive state.”
    That’s probably true. North Carolina probably had to lower quite some taxes and issue other financial stimuli to keep the state interesting for businesses. Doesn’t help any if businesses simply refuse to settle in your state, though.

    “And in 2016, North Carolina enjoyed a record-breaking year of tourism.”
    Great. The more important question, though: would that be enough to make ends meet for North Carolina? I think we all know the answer to that since North Carolina has some minor tourist sites but nothing major like other states have, like Disneyworld (Florida), the Smithsonian (Washington DC), Mount Rushmore (South Dakota), the Statue of Liberty (New York) or Niagara Falls (New York). North Carolina’s best visited site is the area where they filmed the first installment of “The Hunger Games” … (According to the tourist information website of North Carolina).

    “And though they might not have loud voices, there are still a lot of people and companies out there who recognize common sense when they see it”
    Those companies tend to keep quiet about it. A small software company would be swallowed whole by Apple, Google or Microsoft if it devied the software giants, just as a small film production house would be destroyed by Hollywood or a religious oriented fast-food restaurant will simply be refused permits to open new franchises.

    Just face it. Big Business got North Carolina on it’s knees, just as several other states caved for Big Business. Money makes the world go round, not prayers.

    • Robert Cremer

      The world was going around long before money and big business existed and will be going around long after money and big business disappears. Big businesses rise and fall all the time, I have seen God work through prayer way too many times. That is a reality you cannot suspend!

    • Elsiosuchus

      In addition to Robert Cremer’s remark that assures that God works through prayer which I wholeheartedly agree, can we be absolutely sure that the big business exemplified did not succeed by the aid of someone’s praying?

      Does money really make the world go around? Do we know the consequences of its misuse?

      Prayer has many times shown itself the sharp difference between failure and success.

      • Phoenix1977

        Yes, we know the consequence of its misuse. It’s sitting currently in the Oval Office.

    • Steve

      Where has the LGBT community been in its opposition to Apple and other companies that do significant business in Saudi Arabia and other countries that persecute LGBT individuals?
      You had mentioned on another post that gays are persecuted for something that they have no control over. You gave an example of a gay couple being beaten for being gay.
      With all of the outrage over NC, why aren’t Apple and other companies pulling out of those countries that persecute LGBT people? Why isn’t the LGBT community up in arms about those companies? My guess is that a great percentage of LGBT people own Apple products, just like everyone. Why don’t they throw them away out of protest?
      It seems sanctimonious that companies and the LGBT community bring their scorn down on a state that has a law such as that when gays are executed in Islamic countries for who they are.
      If you are going to be outraged, be consistent.

      • Phoenix1977

        And who says we aren’t protesting those events and are trying to improve the situations of the LGBT community in, for example, Indonesia or Saudi Arabia? However, companies like Apple (your own example) have very limited influence there. The LGBT community in those countries is not served with Apple (or Google, Samsung, Microsoft, Coca-Cola, etc.) withdrawing there. On the contrary. Apple and Samsung have played an instrumental role in educating the Chinese public (as an example) leading to more acceptance of LGBTs in China and other parts of Asia.
        One size does not fit all when dealing with LGBT rights. In the US things are clear: a secular country with a decent educational system, so people should know better, simply because they CAN know better. In other countries a different approach might be required. And the fact large companies simply have more power in the US than your chosen representatives certainly helps.

        • Steve

          I see. These corporations turn their heads away from horrific abuses in those countries because they are not secular countries. And here they punish a state and its inhabitants, both straight and not, to prove a point about people wanting privacy in bathrooms for the 97% or so of people who aren’t LGBT oriented. I haven’t seen any evidence that the LGBT community is protesting what is happening in those countries. Please advise. Thanks.

          • Phoenix1977

            Check websites as and and you will see such examples.
            Like I said, no one is turning his or her head away. They simply chose other paths in those countries which are more effective there and then. You may not agree with that approach but it is still a better approach as other institutions are following.
            Oh, and the so-called 3% is based on a survey done by the CDC in the early 1980s when it was still taboo to admit you were gay, lesbian or bisexual. Even the CDC acknowledges the numbers offen quoted are outdated figures. According to the WHO the accurate percentage of LGBTs in the world is between 10 and 15% of the population.

    • Steve

      If big businesses were consistent they would also object to doing business in countries that persecute people from the LGBT community. Similarly, if the NCAA were consistent it would allow men and women to play on the same teams rather than separating them.

    • Steve

      Unfortunately, business and government are having an increased influence on religious freedom. The secularization of society is allowing this to happen. ADF has been on the forefront defending religious freedom but there needs to be a quantum change in how society thinks about religious freedom or else we will lose it. The narrative now is that “religious freedom” is equivalent to “anti-LGBT”. It is not. In any society there needs to be a balance of rights. At this time the balance is being tilted away from religious freedom and towards a more totalitarian imposition of secular beliefs on people of faith. We should live neither in a theocracy or a society based on secular humanism. Neither works.

      P.S. This post is entirely respectful and appropriate for this discussion.

      • Gina Dalfonzo

        Well, yes, it is, but just for the record, the moderator makes that decision. 🙂

    • RuthER

      Are you from North Carolina? NC spent years working the policies that led to the $450 million surplus, which helped take care of the massive devastation left by Hurricane Matthew last October/November, in the poorest regions of the state. There will be another surplus this year. NC has moved from the bottom to the top in past few years under McCrory. His success with capitalism and reducing government was resented by the deep progressives of Charlotte, who forced him into addressing the tiny issue that caused such a national uproar. They don’t care if lots of unemployed people now have jobs. It’s not big businesses that we have to worry about, it’s these Communists who want government control over the minds of their “useful idiots.”

      • Phoenix1977

        You can call it what you want. Not McCrory defined policy in the end and not the State legislators but Big Business, because as soon as they threatened to leave North-Carolina if HB2 was not repleased North-Carolina caved. And North-Carolina clearly recognized the need for Big Business to remain in North-Carolina, something you can be sure about Big Business won’t forget the next time the State legislation passes a bill Big Business is not happy about.

  • Daniel Scrugham

    The reason NC got rid of the bathroom bill was not because of losing jobs or economic growth, but because of losing basketball games. As a Duke fan, I know this is much more powerful than money.