The Bogus 'Others Have It Worse' Argument

Persecution Abroad, Restricting Freedom at Home

Every time someone points out growing restrictions on religious liberty, we hear “Well, that’s not real persecution. Others have it worse!” I say that’s a bogus argument.

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John Stonestreet

As you probably know, on February 15th twenty-one Coptic Christians were martyred by the self-proclaimed Islamic State in Libya. The gruesome video shows the victims declaring their faith and calling upon the name of Jesus even as they died.

The killing brings to mind the words of Tertullian, the second-century apologist who was also from North Africa, who said “The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.”

And that’s what the brother of the martyrs Bishoy and Samuel Kamel is counting on. As he told an Arabic Christian channel, “ISIS gave us more than we asked when they didn’t edit out the part where they declared their faith and called upon Jesus Christ. ISIS helped us strengthen our faith.” Wow. Amen.daily_commentary_03_09_15

Now a less edifying use of this story is how some, both Christians as well as non-Christians, are using what happened in Libya to downplay the challenges to religious freedom happening here in the U.S.

Now, let me first state the obvious: Nothing happening here or elsewhere in the West can remotely be compared to what Christians in the Islamic world undergo on a daily basis. Our first and second response should be to pray for them, and our third response should be to do whatever we can to draw attention to their plight.

At the same time, as Rod Dreher has helpfully pointed out, the “people in this country who fear and loathe Christians” are not beneath using what happened in Libya as an “argument-ender” when Christians complain about infringements on religious freedom. Their response is in essence, “Get back to me when they’re chopping Christian heads off in Times Square, then we’ll talk.”

Never mind, as Dreher also points out, that “No secular liberal would— nor should they—accept the argument that gays in the [U.S.] have no right to complain against discrimination because they don’t have it as bad as gays in ISIS-held territory.”

Yet American Christians are often held to a different standard, and not just by secular liberals. Some of our fellow Christians have become almost predictable in employing this rhetorical shaming strategy. One blogger asked, “Can we stop complaining about this bogus idea that American Christians are persecuted now?” He added that our complaints about the infringement of religious freedom here in the U.S. is “distracting, offensive, and insulting to those who face real persecution for their faith.”

Now, how he knows that our complaints are “offensive and distracting to those who face real persecution” goes unsaid. There’s no hint that he has actually spoken to any Christians in Iraq or Syria.

And as for “distracting,” regular BreakPoint listeners will tell you that we are quite capable of paying attention to both the suffering of our brethren overseas and the infringement on religious liberty here at home. And we’re hardly unique in that respect. Russell Moore, Rick Warren, and World Magazine have also been able to do both. In fact, I can’t think of a single example of someone who is so “distracted” by events here that they’ve not spoken out about atrocities there.

What’s at work here is a kind of false dilemma that one of my colleagues refers to as the Starving-Children-In-Africa fallacy. “There are problems in the world worse than yours,” goes the fallacy, “so your problems are not worth caring about or solving.”


What this false dilemma misses is that the actor most capable of addressing the persecution faced by our brothers and sisters overseas is the United States. And if the United States takes the lead in addressing the issue, it’s in large measure because of religious voices in the public square that are calling for action and seeking to influence public opinion. And without religious liberty, religious voices will be dismissed from the public square, and will be unheard.

In other words, one reason to stand for religious freedom in America is so that we can speak for our persecuted brethren elsewhere. But turning religion in the U.S. into a purely private matter makes coming to the aid of our persecuted brethren less, not more, likely.

And that would really be bogus.

Further Reading and Information
The Bogus ‘Others Have It Worse’ Argument: Persecution Abroad, Restricting Freedom at Home

Let your voice be heard. Join with us and other organizations defending religious liberty here in the United States, and speaking up for our persecuted brothers and sisters overseas. See the links below for websites of organizations involved in this effort.


Lions & Christians in America
Rod Dreher | The American Conservative | February 17, 2015

Beshir Kamel, Brother Of ISIS Victims Bishoy Astafanus Kamel and Samuel Astafanus Kamel: 'This Only Makes Us Stronger In Our Faith'
Antonia Blumberg | Huffington Post | February 19, 2015


Open Doors USA, website

Voice of the Martyrs website

Freedom House website

International Christian Concern website

Christian Solidarity International website


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Too true
The bogus argument you refer to was a pet peave of mine as well. I knew it was a fallacy. And it always bugged me when people would use it. In fact one day I after searching online and I finally found out it has an official name. Its called the "Relative Privation" fallacy. Great article!
"What’s at work here is a kind of false dilemma that one of my colleagues refers to as the Starving-Children-In-Africa fallacy. “There are problems in the world worse than yours,” goes the fallacy, “so your problems are not worth caring about or solving.” This is an excellent point and one I have shared with others for some time when it comes to what constitutes persecution. Persecution runs the gamut from ridicule, cruelty, rejection, abandonment, abuse and yes even death. In America, we tend to think that persecution has more to do with its extreme forms and always because the persecuted said they were Christians. But God is telling us something more about persecution. Let us read it:
"Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted," ( 2 Timothy 3:12 )
It doesn't say some, it says "all". It doesn't name a specific place or time. It is in the life of all who are Christians wanting to live a godly life. Peace time. War time. In the past. In the present.
This is why I visit this website, I get some excelent info! You are absolutely right, that the notion that others have it worse means we have nothing to complain about. I complain about how persecution is starting in America, and get shot down because people think I am complaining about little things. But just because we are not getting our heads cut off, doesn't mean that we aren't being persecuted. We are! Its just starting small now, and we need to at least complain about it while we can, because when it grows to the point were we are getting our heads cut off, then we will have wished that we did more about it. I suspect that Christians in the middle east are wishing they had made a stronger stand against the advance of Islam.
2 Tim 3:12
Indeed, ALL who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted
Persecution abroad
Thank you for this insightful article. I'd like to add that in addition to praying for and drawing attention to the plight of our brothers and sisters who are being martyred for their love of Jesus, we should also be supporting them financially/materially as per Matthew 25:35-36 and 1 John 3:17.