Interesting post here from Jill Stanek: http://www.jillstanek.com/2012/01/stanek-sunday-quote-tim-tebow-regardless-of-whether-i-win-whether-i-lose-whether-im-the-hero-or-goat-i-still-honor-the-lord/

" 'But as Tebow said after the game, “Regardless of whether I win, whether I lose, whether I’m the hero or goat, I still honor the Lord.' "

No, Jason, Tim Tebow and the Broncos lost, in a thorough rout.

My joke is that witches never really know if their actions were effectual, or if something else made the difference - such as, say, athletic skill. (Ya gotta love how the witch at Endor was surprised when Samuel actually appeared - as if calling the spirit of someone dead didn't usually work.) Witchcraft is all about acquiring personal power, then never knowing if you really have it.

I take it from your joke, Lee that the witches lost?

Well, *that* worked. ;-) I wonder - buoyed by this triumph, will the Salem witches extend their support to other local teams, such as, say, the Boston Red Sox? I.e.,
"...And it's 'eye of newt' for the home team,
If they don't win - make it rain!
For it's Bubble! Bubble! Toil and trouble!
At the Old Ball Game!!"

Why is it Tebow particularly? Bethany Hamilton didn't get all this and she is also enthusiastically Christian athlete. Admittedly picking on one-armed girls is rather undignified but that does not always get in the way of mass rage.

Another thing I noted was that Kiersey(the Please Understand Me guy) actually really likes Tebow and he is an atheist. Of course there is no rule that atheists have to be jerks. Still it is interesting.

I didn't say win. Praying for victory is merely immature and mildly unsporting. Praying specifically that someone else might lose is petty. I doubt Tebow want's others to lose except as a necessary part of wanting himself to win.

Agreed, Jason. Praying for a win in a mere game is pretty petty, and I am sure the Lord has often rewarded such with an opportunity for the plaintiffs to gain a little wisdom, the hard way! But I cannot help but feel there is a larger contest here. I have seen dozens of posts on various media where it is painfully obvious that people just want Tebow to lose...period. And the reason seems to be because he insists in honoringGod publicly. Many ( even religious ones) don't like that because they really feel religion should be entirely private. Many others feel he is a hypocrite. Others hate his stand against abortion and wish his mother had aborted him ( yes, some are saying that). Others think him a fool, because they are convinced there is no God. Still others are angry because the temple of sport, where the demiurges of celebrity sportsters and their antics ( even criminal ones) are winked at but a single player who calls publicly on the name of Jahweh in that temple defile it. And, I believe, there are many more who have a quasi-sick feeling, as Cain once did with his brother Abel, that maybe the real God IS blessing this man publicly and has not be lessee them ( because they themselves have not prayed and submitted to Him). That latter scenario is the story of the Bible and of the history of humanity. Finally, there are tens of millions just watching. I would bet anything that Tim Tebow cares a lot more about the outcome of the spiritual struggles of even one single observer ever than he does about the final scoreboard. Any mature Christian would, and he appears such, even as a young man. At least that is how he talks in the video.

Isn't that kind of petty? I don't remember praying for a specific individual to lose an athletic event just because he comes from another religion.

Ellen:

That very question is what takes my mind back to Carmel. Two groups of "Tebowers" praying to two different spiritual entities. There were a lot of people watching, and a lot of drama. I also think of Hebrews 12:1, also couched in the metaphor of an athletic arena with "a cloud of witnesses" looking on.

Tebowing to which spiritual entity?

Well, the article did state that the Salem group would be "Tebowing."

(cough) **Salem** witches.

Any response from *Denver* witches?

Here's a great comment from under the "Salem witches" article:

"I don't know what's worse. That they did this, or that USA Today wrote about it."